DFT-18: Emergence of Quantum-Like Behavior

Discussion concerning the first major re-evaluation of Dewey B. Larson's Reciprocal System of theory, updated to include counterspace (Etheric spaces), projective geometry, and the non-local aspects of time/space.
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DFT-18: Emergence of Quantum-Like Behavior

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Why projection ambiguity looks like uncertainty, why coherence and interference follow from T-frame phase relations, and how RS vibration/rotation become wavefunctions.

Dual-Frame Theory starts from a simple claim:

The physical world we describe in space and time is a projection of a deeper scalar progression, seen through two complementary frames:
  • an S-frame (geometric), and
  • a T-frame (phase/rotational).
Once you accept that:
  • the S-frame cannot represent all of the T-frame structure at once, and
  • the T-frame must remain consistent with the S-frame’s geometric constraints and motion budget,
quantum-like behavior becomes unavoidable:
  • uncertainty arises from projection ambiguity and axis selection,
  • coherence and interference arise from T-frame phase relations,
  • wavefunctions arise as S-frame encodings of RS vibration and rotation.
In this post, we focus on three questions:
  1. Why does projection ambiguity look like uncertainty?
  2. Why do coherence and interference follow from T-frame phase relations?
  3. How do RS vibration and rotation become wavefunctions in the S-frame?
This post is still at the framework level: it explains structure, not yet the exact numerical value of ℏ or the full Schrödinger equation. Those require additional work built on top of what follows.

1. Scalar progression and dual projections

The underlying reality is a scalar trajectory in the Natural Reference System:


\sigma(\lambda) \in \mathbb{R}^3_{\text{NRS}}

with an invariant progression norm


\left\|\frac{d\sigma}{d\lambda}\right\| = \kappa

This single definite process is seen through two projections:
  • S-frame (spacetime-like)

F_S : \sigma(\lambda) \mapsto x^\mu(\lambda),
\qquad
\mu = 0,1,2,3,
  • T-frame (phase/rotational)

F_T : \sigma(\lambda) \mapsto \theta^i(\lambda),
\qquad
i = 1,2,3.

The T-frame phases live on a compact manifold


T^3 = S^1 \times S^1 \times S^1

The motion budget links both projections:


\mathcal{B}_S + \mathcal{B}_T = \mathcal{B}_{\text{total}}

This is the fundamental constraint: S-frame and T-frame are not independent. They are coupled views of the same scalar motion.

2. Why projection ambiguity looks like uncertainty
2.1 T-frame motion as a 3-component phase velocity

In the T-frame, rotational evolution is encoded as a phase-velocity vector


\dot{\Theta}(\lambda)
= \left(\dot{\theta}^1(\lambda),\ \dot{\theta}^2(\lambda),\ \dot{\theta}^3(\lambda)\right

All three components are present in the scalar progression. Nothing in the NRS singles out one rotational axis as intrinsically preferred.

2.2 S-frame measurement selects one effective T-frame direction

A measurement in the S-frame that resolves some spatial quantity (for example, position along a chosen axis, or a component of momentum) cannot access the full three-component T-frame structure. It can only extract one effective component of \dot{\theta} that is compatible with:
  • the chosen S-frame observable, and
  • the motion-budget constraints for that configuration.
Formally, the measurement defines a projection direction in T-frame:


\dot{\theta}^{(\text{obs})} = a_1 \dot{\theta}^1 + a_2 \dot{\theta}^2 + a_3 \dot{\theta}^3

where the coefficients a_1, a_2, a_3 encode how the chosen S-frame observable aligns with the T-frame axes.

Key point:

The S-frame measurement does not read out the full T-frame motion.
It reads out one axis-selected component of it.

2.3 Projection is non-invertible and non-commuting

The map from the full T-frame structure to an S-frame observable is many-to-one:
  • Many different triples (\theta^1, \theta^2, \theta^3) can produce the same S-frame outcome.
  • different observables correspond to different effective T-frame directions, i.e. different linear functionals on \dot{\theta}
Let R_A and R_B be two different measurement projections (e.g., two different spatial directions, or position vs momentum).Each is a map that:
  • chooses a direction in T-frame associated with the observable,
  • redistributes the remaining motion budget between S and T components.
In general,

R_A R_B \ne R_B R_A

Intuitively:

R_A aligns the S-frame with one effective T-frame direction and “forgets” the components orthogonal to it.
R_B aligns with a different combination and forgets a different set of components.

Once one projection has been applied, the information needed to reconstruct what the other projection would have seen is simply not available. Doing R_A then R_B is not equivalent to R_B then R_A.

This is the geometric origin of incompatible observables in DFT: different S-frame measurements correspond to different, generally non-commuting ways of slicing the same T-frame structure under a finite motion budget.

2.4 Uncertainty as projection non-invertibility

Because projection is many-to-one and non-invertible:
  • Knowing an S-frame outcome (for example, a sharp position) does not uniquely determine the T-frame configuration that produced it.
  • Many T-frame states are compatible with the same S-frame result.
Conversely:
  • Insisting on sharp information about one S-frame observable requires that the T-frame state be chosen from a large equivalence class of phase configurations.
  • When we later measure a different S-frame observable that depends on a different T-frame direction, this underdetermination shows up as a spread in the possible outcomes.
From the DFT point of view, uncertainty is not metaphysical indeterminacy:

Uncertainty is the S-frame manifestation of T-frame underdetermination once a particular projection has been chosen.

What standard quantum mechanics expresses with relations like Δ𝑥Δ𝑝≳ℏ/2, DFT expresses as the geometric fact that:
  • sharpening one S-frame observable corresponds to a projection that discards information about T-frame components needed to sharpen its conjugate observable.
In this post we do not yet derive the exact numerical constant ℏ/2; we only identify the underlying geometric reason why such complementarity relations must exist.

3. Why coherence and interference follow from T-frame phase relations
3.1 Phase evolution in the T-frame

Each T-frame phase evolves according to a local frequency:


\frac{d\theta^i}{d\lambda} = \omega^i(\lambda).

For two different paths or histories labeled by a and b, the T-frame phases accumulate as


\theta_a^i(\lambda)
= \theta_a^i(\lambda_0) + \int_{\lambda_0}^{\lambda} \omega_a^i(\lambda')\, d\lambda',


\theta_b^i(\lambda)
= \theta_b^i(\lambda_0) + \int_{\lambda_0}^{\lambda} \omega_b^i(\lambda')\, d\lambda'.

The relative phase along a given T-frame axis is


\Delta\theta^i(\lambda)
= \theta_a^i(\lambda) - \theta_b^i(\lambda).

Because T^3 is compact, only these relative phases matter for interference; absolute phases can be shifted without observable effect.

3.2 Coherence as stable relative phase

Two scalar trajectories are coherent with respect to a given observable when their relevant T-frame relative phase remains approximately constant over an interval:


\Delta\theta^i(\lambda) \approx \text{constant (mod } 2\pi).

In this regime:
  • The S-frame can maintain a stable pattern of constructive or destructive overlap between the contributions of the two trajectories.
  • interference fringes are stable and reproducible.
When the relative phases drift rapidly and uncontrollably, the corresponding S-frame contributions fluctuate in sign and phase and effectively average out. This is decoherence in DFT terms: loss of stable relative phase structure in the relevant T-frame directions.

3.3 Interference from competing phase histories

Consider two alternative scalar histories that project to the same S-frame region:
  • Path A with phase set {\theta_a^i}
  • Path B with phase set {\theta_b^i}
The S-frame cannot distinguish which particular T-frame path produced the event; it only sees the combined effect of all compatible T-frame configurations.

The effective complex amplitude at an S-frame point x is proportional to a sum over compatible phase contributions:


A(x) \propto \sum_{\text{paths } a} e^{i\Phi_a(x)}

where \Phi_a(x) encodes the relevant combination of T-frame phases along path a that project to x.

When two or more contributions arrive with different relative phases, the sum can:
  • be enhanced (constructive interference), or
  • be suppressed (destructive interference),
depending on the values of \Phi_a(x).

Thus:

Coherence and interference are the S-frame appearance of stable or unstable T-frame phase relations among multiple scalar trajectories that project to the same region of spacetime.

No literal waves propagate in the NRS. The “wave-like” behavior lives in the projection: it is how the S-frame encodes the aggregation of phase contributions from T-frame histories.

4. How RS vibration/rotation become wavefunctions

RS talks about:
  • vibration (linear or rotational oscillation)
  • rotation (multi-dimensional time-region rotation)
DFT interprets these as specific patterns of T-frame evolution that, when projected and aggregated, look like wavefunctions to an S-frame observer..

4.1 RS vibration as fundamental T-frame oscillation

A one-dimensional RS vibration is a scalar-motion pattern that yields a periodic T-frame phase:


\theta(\lambda + T) = \theta(\lambda) + 2\pi

for some fundamental period T in \lambda.

The corresponding T-frame phase factor is:


e^{i\theta(\lambda)}

This periodic T-frame evolution is not merely analogous to a complex exponential; it is mathematically the same phenomenon viewed under projection. The RS “vibration” is literally the periodic advancement of T-frame phase, and the complex exponential used in the S-frame wavefunction is exactly the compressed encoding of that periodicity.

4.2 RS rotation as multi-dimensional phase winding

A two- or three-dimensional RS rotation corresponds in DFT to nontrivial winding on multiple T-frame angles:


\theta^i(\lambda + T_i) = \theta^i(\lambda) + 2\pi n_i,
\qquad n_i \in \mathbb{Z},

with integer winding numbers n_i.

These winding numbers determine things like:
  • angular momentum
  • discrete energy levels
  • internal phase structure of “particles” or atomic states
Each rotational configuration contributes a characteristic phase factor


e^{i\Phi(\lambda)}

where Φ(𝜆) is a suitable combination of the θi(λ) determined by the specific configuration and the chosen observable.

4.3 From phase factors to wavefunctions

The S-frame cannot directly represent the full T-frame phase vector. It compresses T-frame information into a function over S-frame configurations.

This function is what we call the wavefunction:


\psi(x) = A(x)\, e^{i\phi(x)}.

Here:
  • A(x) encodes how strongly the family of T-frame configurations that project to 𝑥 contributes (roughly, a square root of the total T-frame measure compatible with 𝑥),
  • \phi(x) encodes the coarse-grained T-frame phase accumulated along paths that reach x.
In DFT language:

The wavefunction is the S-frame’s compressed representation of all T-frame vibrational and rotational possibilities consistent with a given geometric configuration.

This is how RS vibration/rotation become wavefunctions:
  • RS vibration provides the basic periodic phase structure in T-frame.
  • RS rotation provides quantized winding patterns that determine discrete energy levels and phase evolution.
  • The S-frame bundles these into a single complex-valued function psi(x) that encodes both amplitude and phase.
RS vibration provides the basic periodic phase structure in T-frame; RS rotation provides quantized winding patterns that determine discrete energy levels and phase evolution. The S-frame bundles all of that into a single complex-valued function 𝜓(𝑥) that encodes both amplitude and phase.

4.4 Why probabilities are squared amplitudes

Given an S-frame configuration x, the number of compatible T-frame phase configurations is


N(x) = \text{(measure of T}^3\text{ states projecting to } x\text{)}.

If we take the amplitude to scale like


A(x) \propto \sqrt{N(x)}

then the probability associated with configuration 𝑥 is


P(x) = |A(x)|^2 \propto N(x).

The logic is:
  • probabilities must count how much T-frame “phase volume” is compatible with the observed S-frame outcome,
  • amplitudes must add linearly when we superpose contributions from different histories or configurations,
  • this linearity requirement naturally associates amplitudes with square roots of the underlying combinatorial or measure-theoretic counts.
Probability is therefore quadratic because superposition is linear.

In this post we do not derive a full Hilbert-space formalism or normalize 𝜓 explicitly; we identify the structural reason why:
  • a complex amplitude language is natural, and
  • probabilities emerge as squared magnitudes of those amplitudes.
5. Summary

We can now answer the three guiding questions explicitly.

5.1 Why projection ambiguity looks like uncertainty
  • The T-frame has three rotational components and no preferred axis.
  • An S-frame measurement must select an effective T-frame direction to align with a chosen spatial or dynamical observable.
  • This projection is many-to-one and non-invertible; different observables correspond to different, generally non-commuting projections.
  • Many T-frame states map to the same S-frame outcome; once that outcome is fixed, the underlying T-frame state remains underdetermined relative to other observables.
This underdetermination is what appears, in S-frame language, as uncertainty and incompatible observables.

5.2 Why coherence and interference follow from T-frame phase relations
  • Coherence corresponds to stable relative T-frame phases in the directions relevant to a given observable.
  • Interference patterns arise when multiple scalar histories with different phase histories project to the same S-frame region.
  • The S-frame must combine these contributions; the result is constructive or destructive interference depending on relative phase.
Quantum interference is thus the shadow of T-frame phase structure, not a sign of literal waves in the NRS.

5.3 How RS vibration/rotation become wavefunctions
  • RS vibration corresponds to periodic phase evolution in T-frame, producing complex exponential factors.
  • RS rotation corresponds to multi-dimensional phase winding with integer winding numbers (𝑛1,𝑛2,𝑛3).
  • The S-frame cannot display the full T-frame; it compresses it into a complex-valued function 𝜓(𝑥) whose magnitude encodes how much T-frame structure projects to 𝑥, and whose phase encodes coherent T-frame phase relations.
  • Squared amplitude gives probability as a count of compatible configurations, while linear addition of amplitudes encodes phase-sensitive superposition.
Thus, wavefunctions are not primary entities in the NRS. They are projection artifacts: the S-frame’s dual-frame-compatible encoding of RS vibration and rotation and their allowed combinations.

At this point in the series, DFT has:
  • given a geometric explanation for relativistic structure (DFT-13, DFT-15),
  • clarified nonlocality as projection effect (DFT-14),
  • derived RS-style shell structure from T-frame topology (DFT-16),
  • reinterpreted interaction as projection constraint (DFT-17), and
  • shown how key quantum-like features (uncertainty, interference, wavefunctions, Born rule) arise from dual-frame geometry (DFT-18).
What it has not yet done is:
  • derive the exact numerical value of ℏ,
  • produce the full Schrödinger equation with specific Hamiltonians,
  • compute hydrogen spectra, fine structure, or scattering cross-sections,
  • or match QFT precision.
Those are the tasks that turn this framework into a full-fledged quantitative theory. The dual-frame picture is designed so that such a reconstruction is possible; the actual calculations and comparisons to experiment are the natural next step beyond DFT-18.
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