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Solid rotation

Post by bperet » Sat Feb 23, 2013 6:45 pm

I wonder if this can be related somehow to Steven J. Smith's model of neutrino as "half integer spin packet of electromagnetic energy".
Nehru covered most of this in his papers on spin, where he defined magnetic rotations (such as the neutrino) to be a solid rotation (2d rotation), where you rotate through 4π radians (720 degrees), instead of 360.

Visually, a 1d rotation is the triangular slice expanding to fill the circle and a 2d rotation is a cone expanding to fill a sphere.
Therefore a radically different coupling method (transmitting antenna geometry) is needed to produce the requisite half integer spin (fermion) waveform.
Just use the concept of dimensional reduction (birotation) to reduce the fermion solid rotation to a single rotation. Then you can treat it like electricity and use normal antenna geometry. (Two 1d rotations reduce to a wave; two 2d rotations reduce to a 1d rotation).
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It is doubtful an external

Post by Horace » Sat Mar 02, 2013 6:31 pm

It is doubtful an external magnetic field can affect the uncharged electron in the time region of an atom. More likely, it is affecting the orientation of the atom, itself (being a magnetic rotation), and the atom is affecting the uncharged electrons passing through it.
That is hard to accept in light of the experimental evidence where fast electrons and positrons inside solid matter are greatly affected by Lorentz forces caused by external magnetic fields.

See the attached illustration that shows the positron range in solid matter being affected by external magnetic field.

Fast electrons are affected similarly.
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That's charged electrons

Post by bperet » Sat Mar 02, 2013 6:51 pm

That is hard to accept in light of the experimental evidence where fast electrons and positrons inside solid matter are greatly affected by Lorentz forces caused by external magnetic fields.
Conventional science does not have electrons or positrons "inside solid matter," because they do not recognize the uncharged state of the particles (holes). I believe they are talking about charged electrons in the vacuum between the atoms in a block of material (the electron shells), which are outside the time region.
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I thought you were going to

Post by Horace » Sat Mar 02, 2013 7:09 pm

I thought you were going to write that.

Thus, it is important to remember that charged electrons can exist for a while inside a solid conductor's interatomic spaces.

How much empty space (non time-region) does a block of solid copper have? 15% , 95%?

Seems that fast electrons can survive for whole millimeters inside solid matter before they get absorbed. That's a lot on atomic scale!

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Electron boundary conditions

Post by bperet » Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:14 pm

I thought you were going to write that.
Now that you can read my mind, you should write that RS2 book! Image
Thus, it is important to remember that charged electrons can exist for a while inside a solid conductor's interatomic spaces.
Charged electrons are a rotational vibration. In other words, one moment they look like a spatial displacement, the other a temporal one, oscillating back and forth. As a result, they like to hang out on surfaces--the border between the vacuum of space and the solid of time.

When present in a vacuum of space the temporal half allows motion, so they move until they hit something else temporal--like an atom in a conductor. Now they are stuck in a solid of time, and when the oscillation switches back to space, motion starts up again and the progression starts them moving until they run into something spatial. In essence, they follow a chaotic path across a surface, bouncing in and out as they oscillate. Any time you see a charged electron hanging around somewhere, you'll have a boundary condition (like the surface of a conductor).
How much empty space (non time-region) does a block of solid copper have? 15% , 95%? Seems that fast electrons can survive for whole millimeters inside solid matter before they get absorbed. That's a lot on atomic scale!
0.23 nanometers between time regions. But since the time region is 3D time with no structure in space--location only--trying to calculate a percentage results in a divide-by-zero error.

Something else to consider is that a block of copper, as in a wire, is far from a perfect crystal. There are huge gaps between some of the atoms, at least from the atom's point of view. One must also account for thermal separation that also adds space, as STP is far from perfect conditions.

Some electrons could spend years in the copper chasms, and never get out through the barrier of temporal displacements surrounding them.
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And what are those worms?

Post by Horace » Sat Mar 23, 2013 6:57 pm

And what are those worms?

Birotating pairs?
http://youtu.be/3sYjGk2VqCA

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Tesla Krypton experiment

Post by bperet » Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:47 pm

And what are those worms?

Birotating pairs?
No way to tell, as there is no data for that experimental setup. It looks like a standing wave pattern to me, probably from the frequency of the Tesla coil matching the krypton molecules.
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Plasma cells

Post by rossum » Mon Mar 25, 2013 11:31 am

Horace,

those wurms in the video are probably plasma cells. Souch cells are formed when two plasmas in two different magnetic fields interact. Here it seems to be that case: sparks of electrons create one plasma and are influenced heavily with the magnetic field from the coil. The second plasma is caused by the electric field created by electrons which seems to be sufficient to electric breakdown of krypton inside the tube. Plasma is then frosen to it's own magnetic field and cells are separated by boundary layers constituting of current sheets.

Hope this helped

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