New Age Waves, Ether and Magick
Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:14 pm
I am splitting this off to a separate topic...
A "phase wave?" Come on now... phase is a property OF a wave, not a type of wave. Torsion waves (a favorite of David Wilcock when I was his roommate) are a property of bioenergy--not part of the inanimate realm, so you cannot use mechanical devices, such as spinning magnets, to produce them.
"Time waves" is a new one on me... a wave is an accelerated "change of space" related to clock time. So how can you have a "change of time" related to clock time?
This is what I really like about the Reciprocal System--there is a solid concept behind each of these things, based on the Fundamental Postulates. It can go back to being science, not magick.
There is already a lot of discussion on this forum regarding the nature of aether as being cosmic, 3D time. Aether is the reciprocal of space (I discussed this briefly in my intro video I did at the SLC library a while back). Once we know this, then we can determine the properties of aether as a natural consequence of the theory, since ONLY the Reciprocal System has the reciprocal of space (time) as an integrated part of the theory.
"Time waves" must therefore be related to clock space, not clock time, as for a wave to function, it must be in motion--time to time is NOT motion. The concept of "clock space" is unique to the RS. That means your "time wave" must be temporally displaced, and since time-to-time is not motion, they will be the set of waves that cannot travel through atoms--but instead, be absorbed BY them, namely hard uV, X-rays and gamma rays. Nothing special or magical about an X-ray.
You can do this with ALL these concepts, to find out what they are actually trying to relate, without the benefit of the reciprocal relation between space and time.
My attempts to simulate the RS universe has indicated that the system is not limited to 3 dimensions... 3D is the point of "dimensional stability" for our experience, but that does not preclude fewer or more dimensions. It is just the most probable configuration.
My issue with these terms is that there is no conceptual foundation behind them. I know most of these people and have been reading their work for 30+ years. And in that time, it really has not evolved any further than it was back then. You can just replace "ether" with "magick" and get the same result, as far as the science BEHIND it goes.adam pogioli wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:01 amBut they are not just pressure waves in some physical ether, right? They are phase waves, torsion waves/ time waves, which can travel faster than light and backwards in time (I liked your recent discussion about causality and the quantum in this vein).
A "phase wave?" Come on now... phase is a property OF a wave, not a type of wave. Torsion waves (a favorite of David Wilcock when I was his roommate) are a property of bioenergy--not part of the inanimate realm, so you cannot use mechanical devices, such as spinning magnets, to produce them.
"Time waves" is a new one on me... a wave is an accelerated "change of space" related to clock time. So how can you have a "change of time" related to clock time?
This is what I really like about the Reciprocal System--there is a solid concept behind each of these things, based on the Fundamental Postulates. It can go back to being science, not magick.
There is already a lot of discussion on this forum regarding the nature of aether as being cosmic, 3D time. Aether is the reciprocal of space (I discussed this briefly in my intro video I did at the SLC library a while back). Once we know this, then we can determine the properties of aether as a natural consequence of the theory, since ONLY the Reciprocal System has the reciprocal of space (time) as an integrated part of the theory.
"Time waves" must therefore be related to clock space, not clock time, as for a wave to function, it must be in motion--time to time is NOT motion. The concept of "clock space" is unique to the RS. That means your "time wave" must be temporally displaced, and since time-to-time is not motion, they will be the set of waves that cannot travel through atoms--but instead, be absorbed BY them, namely hard uV, X-rays and gamma rays. Nothing special or magical about an X-ray.
You can do this with ALL these concepts, to find out what they are actually trying to relate, without the benefit of the reciprocal relation between space and time.
There are a lot of problems with Bearden's work, particularly the older stuff, which can be easily corrected using RS concepts. For example, a vacuum is a LACK of something--you cannot have a "vacuum wave" because that makes no logical sense... nothing cannot be something (just like the old, Greek arguments regarding the number zero... how can "nothing" be "something?") That means it is impossible to have "waves working through the 'vacuum'." The waves MUST be working through something--and the only other choice we have is the "solid" of 3D time, the "aether." So we KNOW that the transmission of these weapons is through 3D time, not 3D space, which makes sense because atoms are also 3D time, and a pressure wave IN 3D time will clobber an atomic structure in 3D time, because time-to-time is not motion.adam pogioli wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:01 am There is other evidence of this with all of the remote viewing studies and Kozyrev of course. Bearden often talked of the scalar weapons and the waves working through the "vacuum", but I thought the scalar term had more to do with the standing wave pattern that results and that is attached to a physical location which determines the forces expressing there. Isn't this just a fringe version of the gauge theories, which Bill Tiller explicitly uses in his explanation of the phase waves produced through intention/life? Is it just longitudinal interference patterns which can disrupt or heal the the temporal structure?
In RS terms, it is in equivalent space.adam pogioli wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:01 am In Kozyrev/Shipov we have time absorbers/emitters, which seem like terminals in a entropic gradient whose medium is in the cosmic sector but which connects to points in our actualized reference frame.
Kozyrev missed the fact that time has both yin and yang components. Spin is yin... 3D, coordinate time is yang (linear), just like it is in 3D space. Since our science is 99.9% linear space, when we encounter a temporal structure, the natural tendency is to balance masculine with feminine--time is yin, time is spin. But just as science overlooks the yin aspect of space, they also overlook the yang aspect of time--something RS2 does not. (Larson did have a similar problem with his thinking.)adam pogioli wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:01 am It seems like what is being described in any case is the spin aspect of any motion. So maybe instead of scalar wave it should be called time wave? Kozyrev basically equated time with spin, and its travel when decoupled from a location as a twisting spin wave that affects the flow of time wherever it is absorbed.
I do not think that would work, because two pulses of the same aspect would just merge to produce a larger/smaller pulse. You would have to have a pressure pulse with a "reciprocal" pressure pulse (note that it would appear as a phase shifted pulse, since space and time are 90° out-of-phase). That would form a shear wave that could be transmitted across the "solid" of 3D time.adam pogioli wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:01 am But through altering the phase of the pressure wave, for instance by two longitudinal pulses exactly 180 degrees out of phase, you can make the whole thing move through time and converge at another point in space and time in a nonlinear way?
Couple of bad assumptions there... it would be an ordinal progression (discrete, not a continuum). There is no "topmost" level, the projection and "deprojection" of motion between reference systems is more of an oscillation than a hierarchy. We are biased towards the coordinate system because that is where our physical senses function. We are not equipped to "sense" this topological state--most people cannot even conceive of it as a mental exercise.adam pogioli wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:01 am I don't have a fleshed out understanding of all this, but it seems like if motion always has a rotational and linear component, and if all motion is a projection through an abstract ordinal continuum, then that motion can be distributed through different reference systems but at the topmost topological level is always a three dimensional transformation for reasons you have been exploring, correct?
My attempts to simulate the RS universe has indicated that the system is not limited to 3 dimensions... 3D is the point of "dimensional stability" for our experience, but that does not preclude fewer or more dimensions. It is just the most probable configuration.