'Sound' Thinking

Discussion concerning the first major re-evaluation of Dewey B. Larson's Reciprocal System of theory, updated to include counterspace (Etheric spaces), projective geometry, and the non-local aspects of time/space.
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Gopi
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'Sound' Thinking

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Had been thinking about the nature of sound. It ties up very closely with the matter-view of the world, or the motion view of the world.

Consider a sound, being propagated through space... it is in essence a pressure wave, a series of compressions and rarefactions. It can manifest as a longitudinal wave in fluids, while in solids it can also be transverse.

Now, because of that property, physics has primarily treated "waves" to mean transverse, and longitudinal waves take up a minor role. Now a longitudinal wave through air, for example, means that the "push" is transferred to air. Now according to the traditional matter visualization, it is exactly similar to giving a push to a bunch of hard billiard balls, and they bounce and move in aggregated- and spread out - sections. In that view, each of the balls have no relation to the other balls when they move, but only when they collide. Now in the view of atoms as units of motion, there are no independent hard balls, but only a relation of space to time. And since a compression and rarefaction is the constituent of the "wave", it is actually a scalar wave, or a scalar vibration. So, actually the idea of solid balls only applies to the "zero points" of the atoms, the centers, so it is only one side of the view, the other side is that the atoms can be in touch with one another in time even if they are apart in space.

So here we have a distinct scalar wave, with BOTH aspects, involution and evolution, expressed, as opposed to thermal motion, where the involution was ineffective. So sound is a representation of scalar vibration NOT in the dimension which is being represented in the case of heat. So it is a vibration in one of the other dimensions, indirectly being represented with a net zero effect (compression + rarefaction), except for the fact that the compression is brought about of an existing motion in the dimension of the reference system. Hence, it is a speed in the dimension of the reference system, "modulated" by a scalar vibration from the other two dimensions. In fact Larson was highlighting that the gas pressure laws were a property of space, and not of the atoms.

Compression is more time, while rarefaction is less time (more space). But originally there was time structure (matter). Hence, the "modulation" has this characteristic: compression - more time, (negative space), and rarefaction, more space (and negative time). It is as if one has to think away all that is doing the propagating, and concentrate on the propagation itself, as a motion. It is actually an alternating positive and negative space (or time, if you prefer) motion. In other words, sound itself is partly material, partly cosmic, and a scalar vibration, just like a photon. Only it is not observed as such. So you see that science had it backwards... they considered heat as entirely a property of the aggregate... turned out it wasn't. Similarly, they considered sound as strictly having to do with only the medium... now we see that the medium is less important than the modulation.

It also shows us why it manifests as a longitudinal wave in fluids... they have the "free dimension", hence sound can retain its scalar property. However, in solids, all three dimensions are constrained, and it can hence be vectorial as well. That is what is called the "transverse phonon". Similarly, the longitudinal one is called the "longitudinal phonon". Hence one sees the mixing up of vectorial and scalar motion. Now, the oscillatory motion can be "interatomic", or "intra-atomic". In the sense, they can all oscillate together, or against each other. Hence there turn out to be 2*2=4 kinds of phonons in current physics. Now, as can be expected, one "half" of the sound is equivalent to heat. Hence, sending sound through any piece of material would naturally heat it. But heating something would not create a sound, because it is missing the other half of the scalar vibration. Unless you explode something, which generates full vibrations.

That is as far as I have got. Yet to determine the numerical relationships required. Let me know what you think.
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I've pretty much come to the same conclusions. Been studying the Searl Effect, which led me to analyzing the effects of the unrepresented dimensions. I was basing my thoughts p 213 of UOM:
elimination of the gravitational motion results in a movement of this matter back to the spatial position that it would have occupied if the gravitational motion had not taken place. Since it reverses a motion in the reference system, this elimination of the gravitational change of position is observable in that system, even though the change of position due to the motion that produced this effect, the ultra high speed motion in time or in a second scalar dimension in space, is itself unobservable.
Where rarefication is just elimination of gravitation between the atoms. Of course, motion in the temporal aspect would be concurrent with the atomic rotation, thus increasing gravitation.

Given that sound is in an unrepresented dimension, that would explain Keely's ability to disassociate and fuse atoms without heat, because sound is controlling inter-atomic distances.

At first I was confused by the "one-shot" nature of sound--passes through the atoms and doesn't stay stuck, like heat or ionization. Then I remembered... "light is still and everything else is moving." And since we're talking vibration, the sound isn't moving at all in a translatory fashion--like light, it is fixed in the natural reference system--it's the atoms that are moving and passing through the sound wave, giving the appearance of sound moving through matter with wave interaction (a scalar phenomenon). For the same reasons the speed of light is slower in higher density solids (additional time), the speed of sound slows as well--but being in a different dimension, would be subject to a inter-regional scale factor. (Haven't thought about a value, perhaps in the order of the speed of light since it is a "inter-dimensional ratio"). Because of this large scaling, sound was never considered to be carried by the progression.

Interesting thought about the non-solid state... if thermal conditions have broken the gravitational link between atoms in one or more coordinate dimensions, then it is no surprise the intensity of "sound" drops significantly, as the change in location wouldn't do much on those disconnected dimensions.
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