Colliding Galaxies or 2nd Generation stars?

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Colliding Galaxies or 2nd Generation stars?

Post by bperet » Sat Apr 29, 2017 12:59 pm

I was looking at images of "colliding galaxies" (as part of a logo redesign) and happened to notice that in many cases, one is blue and one is red (such as M51a & M51b, the Whirlpool galaxy). I did some checking, and found that the blue one is usually a spiral, typically with a Seyfert AGN classification--and an X-ray/gamma ray emitter. The other is a dwarf galaxy that is usually a radio emitter.

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Now, given the evidence that what we call "galaxies" are actually "solar systems" with what Larson describes in The Universe of Motion as "2nd generation stars" (where a star goes supernova, producing a red giant/white dwarf pair)--I have to wonder if we are looking at colliding galaxies--or just the early stages of a 2nd generation, binary star system.

In Larson's binaries, the "A component" has exploded in space into a debris field, which gravity then pulls together to form a red giant. This reforming of a star tends to produce radio noise--which also seems to describe M51b, a red dwarf "galaxy."

The "B component" has exploded in time into a cosmic debris field and cools/expands in space (A component contracts... in space, red "A" small, blue "B" big). This would look like an expanding vortex, as the core is spinning--a spiral-type galaxy. Since matter is moving in time and slowing to low speeds, it is a strong X-ray and gamma ray emitter--which describes M51a, a spiral Seyfert galaxy.

So what we may be actually seeing with "colliding galaxies" is the early stage of that "recondensing" into a red giant/white dwarf pair, where the supernova debris field is still dominant--not colliding galaxies, but the formation of a stable, binary star system.
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Re: Colliding Galaxies or 2nd Generation stars?

Post by duane » Sun Apr 30, 2017 1:14 pm

hi Bruce,

so if you were watching from the cosmic sector
they would look the opposite?

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Re: Colliding Galaxies or 2nd Generation stars?

Post by bperet » Mon May 01, 2017 5:42 pm

duane wrote:
Sun Apr 30, 2017 1:14 pm
so if you were watching from the cosmic sector they would look the opposite?
A material observer standing in 3D time would see them "inside out," not just color flipped; but if you were a cosmic observer, then you'd see the same thing because your red/blue colors would also be flipped.

A cosmic observer looking at stuff in the cosmic sector will see the same thing as a material observer looking at stuff in the material sector.
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