Supernova from Blue Giant

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drwater
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Supernova from Blue Giant

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Just saw this on the Science Channel and looked up the article it came from:

http://science.discovery.com/stories/we ... giant.html

Astronomers See Huge Supernova

by Patrick J. Kiger

In a previous paper, Gal-Yam and Leonard had suggested that the luminous point had spawned the supernova. But now, with post-event images, they could confirm that the light source had disappeared with the explosion, and that there was now a void where the star-and the supernova-had been. They were able to conclude that the solitary star indeed met its end in supernova SN 2005gl.

According to Gal-Yam's and Leonard's paper, the progenitor star most likely was luminous blue variable star, or LBV, a state in the evolution of massive stars. LBVs, which are extremely rare, are more than 50 times the mass of the Sun and among the hottest and most energy-releasing stars in the universe.

In standard models of stellar evolution, massive stars are not expected to explode until they've passed through the LBV phase, Gal-Yam and Leonard note in their paper. Their confirmation that LBV did indeed turn into a supernova may require a significant revision of those models.


This sounds a lot more like Larson's predictions for stellar evolution than the standard model. Even though the Science channel was saying the void was evidence of the formation of a black hole, the void left behind would be consistent with Larson's theory of intermediate speed (and thus not visible) products left behind.
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Exactly right!

When a supernova goes off, several things happen. Since the explosion takes place at the nickel-iron-cobalt belt inside the star, all the matter nearer the surface gets accelerated and ejected into space. That ejecta will often accelerate to intermediate speeds and produce a large debris ring (asteroid belts and Oort clouds). It then cools to low-speed and forms common asteroids. This star is probably too far away to see the ring directly.

Asteroid with "moons" indicate that there is still intermediate and ultra-high speed matter present, which is why moons stay in orbit about another body. (The inward motion of gravity is balanced against the outward, ultra-high speed motion, resulting in a stable orbit--very similar to Larson's chemistry).

The heavier matter at the stellar core will explode in time, causing a compression in space of the remaining material--which will first appear as a supermassive, luminous point, due to the inverse density gradient of matter moving in time. As the aggregate expands and cools in time (contracting and heating up in space), the emissions will shift towards the X-ray band. If they keep watching that spot, they should find an X-ray source, which will be misinterpreted as a black hole.

Larson did so much with astronomy... shame we (ISUS) has never had any success getting astronomers interested in it. NASA was, back in the 1960s when they were preparing for their moon shots, but I guess it has been forgotten.
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