more on gravitational waves?

Discussion concerning the first major re-evaluation of Dewey B. Larson's Reciprocal System of theory, updated to include counterspace (Etheric spaces), projective geometry, and the non-local aspects of time/space.
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more on gravitational waves?

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http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... D_20160607

So while this site says they aren't finding anything they keep finding more "proof"? What am I missing?
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next expensive hype

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haven't seen any proof in this link... they just discuss on what they will spend lots of money in the future to prove good'ol Enstein again... and surely again after that. The abstract of the technical papper they link to just state that they have a very sensible sensor that could do the job well. i personnally find the buildup of this article rather anoying.
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Yes - I agree but it makes good copy? It states in the article how close all of this is too Brownian motion and how they figured out how to take that out. Really? How?
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No black holes? No GV waves? Hmmm ... these guys think so and now they have more "proof"?

Gravitational Wave Observatory Finds More Colliding Black Holes

The second confirmation of ripples in spacetime is announced by astronomers at LIGO
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more LIGO proof

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Looks like second and maybe third find of GW by LIGO. Does this mean RS needs some changes? How do you account for it if not?
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Looks like second and maybe

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Looks like second and maybe third find of GW by LIGO. Does this mean RS needs some changes? How do you account for it if not?
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a lie vs. truth

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Well these guys are lying good enough to get big bucks to make LIGO even more sensitive [accurate?]. Seems there is something they are measuring. Any idea what that might be instead of GW?
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A lie vs truth

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Well these guys are lying good enough to get big bucks to make LIGO even more sensitive [accurate?]. Seems there is something they are measuring. Any idea what that might be instead of GW?

As a WAG, I offer three possibilites:

1. Magenetic field fluctuations;

2. Mass changes (this would be instantaneious) due to mass/energy crossing the unit boundaries in either or both dircetions as witi distant quasars and so called cosmic rays;

3. Nothing.
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Gravity... Too big to fail!

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I had run across a Miles Mathis paper regarding the announcement of the Higgs boson...
Speaking of funding, anyone could have predicted that the Higgs would be found. It had to be found. Given the amounts of money that have been spent and the amount of ink that has been spilled, failure was not an option. With over 10,000 scientists working on the project, the job loss could not be countenanced. Too big to fail, remember? It was going to be bailed out one way or another, and apparently it was decided that the bailout would be led by a media blitz, burying the world under one more huge pile of propaganda and horn-tooting.
Anyone see a pattern with LIGO here?

Looking past all these scientific "false flags," the RS does state that atoms have two gravitational components, rotational mass (the atomic rotation that defines the atomic number) and vibrational mass, which Larson calls a "gravitational charge."

Rotation is totally scalar, so there are no forces involved--just inward velocity that give the appearance of two objects being pulled towards each other. There is no force of attraction, any more than two cars are "pulling themselves together" as they approach each other on the highway. Rotational "gravity" is instantaneous, because there is no actual connection (gravitons) between the masses in question.

Vibration mass is a rotational vibration, so it is intermittent and having physical effect only during the inward swing (the outward swing is parallel to the progression, and 1 x 1 = 1 -- no physical effect). This, too, is scalar and given the number of atoms involved in a star or quasar, has an effect analogous to Brownian motion--a random jittering in all directions. But this can produce "waves" from impacting particles, of the same frequency as the vibrational mass--they would be "gravitational waves" that, like any radiation, are carried by the progression of the natural reference system at the speed of light. If they were detecting anything, this would be it.

In my opinion, they are not measuring anything, because these waves would never survive the distances involved to the objects they claim to measure.
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http://nautil.us/issue/38/noise/the-hid ... yndication

The Hidden Science of the Missing Gravitational Waves

A relatively unknown experiment is already drawing conclusions from the sound of silence.

There seems to be a lot of "spin" in the universe

"we didn't find what we expected

so we know we're on the right track"
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